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October 31, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Mapping Botswana report for October 2014

The area between Gaborone and Mochudi is now very well covered with roads thanks to remote mapping using imagery, now we are missing more locals to add shops, schools and more.

The Peace Corps continue their fine work and are now using HOT to fight against malaria.

Edits in Botswana in October 2014

Nearly exhaustive list

  • Bokaa
  • Central Kalahari Game Reserve
  • D'kar
  • Damochojena
  • Kachikau
  • Kavimba
  • Kazungula
  • Kgari
  • Kuke
  • Lenyetse
  • Lesoma
  • Mabele
  • Majwaneng
  • Malotwana Siding
  • Maposa
  • Matebeleng
  • Maun
  • Mmadinare
  • Mochudi
  • Moremi Game Reserve
  • Morwa
  • Mosetse
  • Nata
  • Oodi
  • Palapye
  • Parakarungu
  • Pilane
  • Rasesa
  • Satau
  • Selebi Pikwe
  • Tutume

by Mapping Botswana at October 31, 2014 11:42 PM

Uso para software pago

Pessoal ,estou desenvolvendo um software, contudo esse é pago. Gostaria de saber se posso usar o OpenStreetMap mesmo sendo que os usuários tem que pagar para usar o software. Em relação ao mapa, faço sua utilização para localizar algumas pontos de umas ruas.

by Sandoval at October 31, 2014 09:01 PM

Richard Weait

Prepare: Members vs. Associate members

What are Normal members, Ordinary members, Associate members and Members? And what can you do to prepare for the vote?

Helping yourself

Check your membership status. In your email archive you should have email from the membership secretary, detailing your renewal date and your status as member or associate member.

Check if you are paid up to date! If your confirmation email indicates that your membership term has lapsed, get that update to the membership secretary as soon as you can. With the move to STV, last minute updates at the AGM may be problematic.

Check your status. Are you the member or associate member that you expect to be? If you are an associate member and wish to modify to member before this election, again, please contact the membership secretary as soon as possible.

Terminology

Associate members can vote for the board of directors and on other membership voting matters that are not special resolutions. Members, sometimes called Ordinary members, or Normal members can vote on the above and on special resolutions as well.

There are three special resolutions on the 2014 ballot. Each special resolution is an edit that updates the Articles of Association.

There is one additional voting matter, whether to allow the board to waive membership fees for an individual under some circumstances. This vote is neither a special resolution, nor a resolution, and so the vote is open to both associate members and members.

But? But? Normal?

My reading of the AoA finds no occurances of "Normal member" or "Ordinary member". I believe that that both of those terms have simply snuck into various documents as synonyms for "Member". The intention is likely to distinguish Member from Associate member and from Corporate member.

So, in my judgement*, "Member" = "Ordinary member" = "Regular member". But there are probably documents that use members to refer to both Members and Associate members. Is seems a bit sloppy.

Candidate biographies and statements

And, of course, read the candidate biographies, their statements and their responses to the questions from the community.

Biography and Satement links http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14/Election_to_Board

Questions and answers: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM14/Election_to_Board

*Hey, I'm just guessing out loud for you to follow along. Updates welcome. :-)

by rweait at October 31, 2014 08:29 PM

STV election explainer

The OpenStreetMap Foundation election to board is coming up shortly. Details will be posted soonish. In the interim, some of you might be wondering what all this STV-stuff is, if you haven't seen it in your local elections.

Kate, wonderchook, offered this link as a handy demonstration of the very basics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac9070OIMUg

The same video publisher made related videos that address some of the details.

Switching from non-STV to STV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukSDm0RD2E

The difference between Hare and Droop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRc630BSTIg

Or the wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote

The board is still discussing some last minute details. Once decided those will be distributed as widely and as quickly as we can.

by rweait at October 31, 2014 08:15 PM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

OSMBlog (German)

Wochennotiz Nr. 223

21.10. – 27.10.2014

CheckAutopista


neues QA-Tool für Autobahnen – CheckAutopista [1]

Wahlen zum Vorstand der OpenStreetMap-Foundation

  • Frederik Ramm gibt als Schriftführer der OSMF bekannt, dass Simon Poole als Vorstandsvorsitzender mit sofortiger Wirkung zurückgetreten ist. Grund sei, so Frederik auf talk-de, Steve Coasts Comeback-Versuch in Form einer Wiederkandidatur. Näheres dazu weiter unten.
  • Auf der OSM-Talk Mailingliste wird über den aktuellen Zustand des OSMF-Boards diskutiert. Auslöser ist die anstehende Wahl von Board-Mitgliedern sowie ein Bericht von Frederik Ramm, der in den letzten zwei Jahren Mitglied des Boards war.
  • Aufgrund der Diskussion über die Zustände im OSMF-Vorstand versucht Steve Coast ein Comeback und kandidiert für die Wahlen zum Vorstand. Seine Kandidatur erntet Kritik.
  • Während der oben genannten Diskussionen im Vorfeld der OSMF-Vorstandswahlen wurde Kritik laut, dass die Finanzberichte der OSMF nur mit Verzögerungen von deutlich über einem Jahr veröffentlicht werden und selbst den Vorständen (Finanzvorstand ausgenommen) nicht bekannt sind. Um dem Abhilfe zu schaffen, wurde jetzt der Finanzbericht für 2013 veröffentlicht. Bitte beachtet auch die Anmerkungen auf der Liste OSMF-Talk.
  • Richard Fairhurst, der Entwickler des Editors Potlach, kommentiert in seinem Blog die aktuelle Diskussion zur OSMF-Wahl.
  • Simon Poole, der als Vorstandsvorsitzender der OSMF vor wenigen Tagen mit sofortiger Wirkung zurücktrat, erklärt seinen Rücktritt in einer Serie von Blogposts.
  • Fragen an die Kandidaten und die Antworten darauf gibt es im OSM-Wiki.
  • Frederik Ramm, einer der Kandidaten, erklärt auf OSMF-Talk, warum er nichts von Face-to-Face-Treffen im Rahmen der Vorstandsarbeit hält. Die Diskussion triftet zum Teil in die Themenbereiche Fundraising und Serverkosten ab.

Talk, Forum, Wiki & Blog

Open Data & ODbL

  • Es gibt einfach zu viele Open-Data-Portale, sonst gäbe es keinen Bedarf für eine Liste der Listen – datacatalogs.org und Catalog of Open Data Portals.
  • Die britische Firma GeoLytix hat einen Datensatz mit 6872 britischen Supermärkten veröffentlicht. Zur Erfassung wurde u. a. Google Street View verwendet. Die Lizenz ist nicht OSM-kompatibel.
  • Mapbox hat vom Centre of Spatial Law ein White Paper “The ODbL and OpenStreetMap: Analysis and Use Cases” (PDF 282 kB) anfertigen lassen, das die Probleme der ODbL-Lizenz zusammenfasst und darlegt, warum Mapbox eine Lizenz ohne Weitergabe unter gleichen Bedingungen (Share-Alike) will. In den Kommentaren zu Alex Barths User Diary wird Kritik an der Methodik und den Inhalten laut.
  • Der OKFN-Mitarbeiter Christian Heise ist am 5. November als “Open-Data-Sachverständiger” in den Bundestagsausschuss Digitale Agenda (#btada) geladen und bittet um Feedback zu den Punkten, die er vortragen will.
  • Die Bremische Bürgerschaft hat den Bremer Senat einstimmig aufgefordert, “ehrenamtlich Tätige im Bereich der Kartenerstellung und Geodatengewinnung in ihrem Engagement zu unterstützen”. Weitere Infos auf der Bremer Mailingliste und in der Drucksache 18/1468 (PDF 158 kB).

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Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team

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by Wochennotizteam at October 31, 2014 09:29 AM

ШТОСМ

Обойдёмся без советов

В рассылке osmf-talk — и в самом OSMF — наступили странные времена. Как знают слушатели OSM радио, у нас уже неделю как нет председателя Совета, главы основных рабочих групп тоже нет, а по карте разгуливает зомби Стив Кост, откусывая головы зазевавшимся мапперам. Что случилось?

16 октября открылся приём заявок от кандидатов в Совет. Туда сразу записался Фредерик Рамм (на второй срок) — и тишина. Как описано в прошлой заметке, в OSMF ничего не происходило и не происходит. Недавно Дейв Корли вспомнил про премию Ульфа Мёллера, но «никто никого не номинировал», и про неё забыли. Казалось, до 4 утра 24 октября список кандидатов так и останется из одного человека. Затишье продолжалось ровно до полудня 21 октября, когда Сара Хоффман (автор номинатима) прочитала манифест Фредерика, удивилась и попросила членов Совета объясниться. Что же там такого?

  • В OSMF нет прозрачности. Инициатива с развёрнутыми отчётами о встречах была подавлена. Список членов OSMF приходилось вырывать с боями — и это члену Совета.
  • Совет плохо взаимодействует с рабочими группами: последние иногда считают, что Совет слишком много на себя берёт.
  • Бюрократия затягивает простые решения на месяцы, даже если все в целом согласны с ними.
  • При этом некоторые члены Совета не торопятся с ответами, пытаются спихнуть решения на рабочие группы, и в целом тормозят изменения.

Обсуждение имело позитивный эффект — список кандидатов начал расти. За сутки записались Марек, Петер Барт и Рэнди Мич (биографию и заслуги кандидатов распишу позже). Саре отвечали как участники OSMF, удивлённые текстом, так и члены Совета (Саймон и Кейт), которые не пытались опровергнуть манифест, но уточняли, что не всё так плохо, пусть их разочарование и сочилось сквозь текст. Так, Саймон Пул отметил, что за последние два года удалось принять несколько важных документов (AoA, LCA, объяснение лицензии), и в работе увеличение прозрачности по членам OSMF и финансам и снижение порога вхождения для ассоциированных членов OSMF (см. пункт 6).

А затем Стив Кост сыграл патриарха, объяснив всем, что OSM уже не торт, но мы можем снова покрыть его глазурью, уменьшив размер Совета до 3 членов и переписав цель OpenStreetMap из «лучшей карты мира» в «лучшую карту адресов мира». А все проблемы решать оплачиваемыми сотрудниками, ведь деньги не так сложно найти. В этом его позиция не изменилась с 2012 года, когда он ещё не ушёл из Bing в Telenav, — и не стала актуальнее.

Раздалось многоголосье незадачливых участников OSMF, соглашающихся со Стивом, перемежающееся возгласами опытных членов «да ты что, дед, совсем что ли», промеж набирающего силу обсуждения финансов OSMF и общей фрустрации от беспомощности Совета и острого желания всё поправить. Наконец, вечером 23 октября, за 9 часов до закрытия сбора заявок, в таблицу вписался Стив Кост. Уверен, никто из участников дискуссии этого не ожидал.

Почему его решение странно? Ну, во-первых, он Почётный Председатель, т. е. может участвовать во всех встречах Совета, обращаться к любым структурам OSMF и давать ценные указания. Не может только участвовать во внутренних голосованиях Совета. Во-вторых, не приобретая особых привилегий, он займёт место, на которое мог претендовать кто-то более незамутнённый и полный энергии. В-третьих, за 20 минут до этого он подписался под предложением сократить срок службы в Совете, и он уже провёл в нём 5 лет. Наконец, Стив давно оторвался от реальности OpenStreetMap, и поведёт проект не вперёд, а в другое место.

Дальше последовал ряд вежливых недоумённых писем от давних осмеров, на которые Стив солнечно отвечал: «кажется, вы перегрелись, давайте возьмёмся за руки и поднимем OSM на новую высоту». Подобные реплики только бесили участников, и Фредерик не выдержал первым: «ты же причина непрозрачности Совета» и «ты же создавал конкуренцию OSMF своими MapClub и OSM Plus». Затем Саймон Пул, председатель Совета, сложил полномочия.

В заметке, которую он написал три дня спустя, Саймон объяснил, что его решение вызвано не дурацкими спорами в списках рассылки, и не личными обстоятельствами. Разгадка одна — Стив Кост. Если его изберут (а его изберут — многие не следят за спорами, а голосуют за знакомые фамилии), его странные цели поддержат некоторые члены Совета, которые работают много лет и предпочтут вернуться к удобному положению, когда ничего не надо решать. А других вытеснят, потому что один из пунктов программы Стива — уполовинивание Совета. Даже если Стив собирается вернуться всего на год, передавать управление «хунте» будет очень неразумно. Ситуация патовая, и единственный выход — роспуск Совета.

Полный роспуск Совета, перенос голосования на три месяца и набор Совета с нуля — с подачи Ричарда набирающая популярность позиция, к которой склоняются помимо прочих посетители чатика #osm (включая меня), Фредерик, Саймон, Сара Хоффман, Кейтлин. Программный текст Ричарда на эту тему, «давайте уступим место молодым», половина Совета проигнорировала: единственным адекватным ответом будет последовать за Саймоном. Фредерик проштудировал устав и предложил схему мягкого переворота, которая решит проблему неуступчивых членов Совета:

  1. составить предложение роспуска Совета и набора новых членов с жёстким цензом;
  2. найти 26-30 членов OSMF, которые подпишутся под предложением;
  3. потребовать у Совета сбора общего собрания: его придётся провести не позже, чем через 49 дней;
  4. получить на общем собрании большинство голосов.

Конечно, мы надеемся, что до этого не дойдёт. Кажется, варианта «оставить как есть» уже нет: Dermot McNally, ответственный за голосование, до сих пор его не объявил, а до AGM14, на котором объявят результаты, осталась неделя.

Сломается ли OpenStreetMap без Совета? Нет, конечно: по инерции он проживёт ещё много лет. Всю важную работу у нас делают добровольцы и рабочие группы: серверы — OWG, вандализм — DWG, разработка — EWG, юридические вопросы — LWG. Работа Совета — стратегическое планирование и общие вопросы, но её он и сейчас делает неудовлетворительно.

Попутно в osmf-talk обсудили тему встреч Совета вживую: Фредерик сомневается, что их результаты оправдывают 5-8 тысяч фунтов на перелёты. Пришли к тому, что встречи важны: не столько решениями (которые не блещут и в другое время), но личным знакомством членов Совета друг с другом. Общаться, зная собеседника в лицо, куда продуктивнее, чем воспринимая его только как набор букв. А стоимость — ну, хотя денег у OSMF немного (20-30 тысяч фунтов дохода в год), никаких затруднений с деньгами мы не испытываем, на серверы хватает.

Затем Фредерик поднял тему независимой проверки расходов участниками OSMF. Потому что сторонняя бухгалтерская компания не заметит, если кто-то оплатит из денег OSMF поездку на море или новый ноутбук. Наш казначей, Оливер Кун, ответил, что у нас всё хорошо: доступ к Paypal и к банковским счетам есть у нескольких членов Совета, для аудита и бумажной работы нанимаем стороннего бухгалтера, и у нас не такая большая организация, чтобы сильно усложнять процедуры. Ну и ещё что он оставит позицию казначея на следующей неделе, но поскольку сложная работа делегирована оплачиваемому сотруднику, заменить Оливера будет несложно.

Вчера Майкл Коллинсон, будучи модератором osmf-talk, попросил не слишком нагнетать и не переходить на личности. Никто не воспринял это всерьёз: если не в открытой только для членов OSMF рассылке, то где вообще обсуждать проблемы?

В следующем письме Майкл объявил: он складывает все свои полномочия. Будучи бывшим секретарём по членству в OSMF, он имел доступ к базе данных членов и получал копии писем на membership@ — единственный, не считая Хэнка Хоффа, которого обвиняют в нежелании делиться информацией с другими членами Совета. Также Майкл председательствовал в рабочей группе по лицензиям (LWG) и управляющей команде (MT), которая должна была служить прослойкой между Советом и рабочими группами. Последняя его совершенно разочаровала: постоянные дрязги с Советом, все её члены одновременно участвуют в рабочих группах, и работа получается какая-то нервная и бессмысленная. Майкл ощущает, что перестал быть полезен, поэтому предпочтёт заняться более продуктивной деятельностью: в понедельник он опубликует план своего нового проекта, «Заниматься тем, что интересно». Он хочет упорядочить участие в проектах OSMF: про повышение равенства участников, программирование, поддержку. Помогая новым добровольцам, он надеется сделать их работу приятной и продуктивной, и через это увеличить количество активных участников OSMF за год втрое, до 75 человек.

Конечно, Майкла приветствовали в его решении. Саймон Пул только одному удивился: почему он не поддержал роспуск Совета?

October 31, 2014 07:34 AM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Heippa hei.

Taas mahtava aamu ja lämmintä on noin 9 + astetta. Kohta taas lähden hoitamaa hommia. Onneksi alkaa taas viikonloppu meillä on pileet joissa on porukka aika paljon. Nyt on klo 05,14 eli kohta sitten takkia päälle ja ulos. Nyt on 31.10.2014 eli huomenna uusi kuukausi alkaa. On todella mahtavaa kun ei ole lunta eikä kovasti pakkasta.

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by xklove2000 at October 31, 2014 12:36 AM

October 30, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

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Através da base de dados do IBGE estou iniciando a nomeação dos logradouros de Cristalina, em Goiás. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/334440#map=15/-16.7739/-47.6046

by Ivaldo at October 30, 2014 09:31 PM

SK53

War Memorials: revisiting an OpenStreetMap Project of the Week

Great Gable from Broad Crag col - geograph.org.uk - 768103
Great Gable, a mountain in the English Lake District.
The summit and around 1200 ha of the surrounding area are dedicated as a war memorial.

Four years ago I proposed mapping war memorials as the OpenStreetMap Project of the Week. It ran in early November 2010 to coincide with the anniversary of Armistice Day, when several countries honour their war dead. At the time I was intrigued at how this particular topic resonated with mappers.

I was gratified that both Peter Reed and Chris Hill felt engaged by the idea. Richard Weait, co-ordinator of Project of the Week, wrote a very interesting post about the poem "In Flanders Field" which was written by a Canadian.


I know that both Peter and Chris are similar in age to me. It seemed to me that it is predominantly people over 50 for whom both World Wars hold special significance.

In my case it is the First World War which has impinged most directly in my life. Both my parents were children during WWII, and so, unlike many of my contemporaries at school and college, no-one in the close family had been in the military during that conflict.

However, my grandfather served in the Mediterranean during WWI. I also just about remember one of my grandmother's cousins who suffered chronically from, what we now call PTSD, but was then known as Shell Shock.

Perhaps more significantly my grandmother's two older sisters were part of the generation of "Surplus Women": young women outnumbered young men by a significant margin in many European countries after the end of WWI. Virginia Nicholson's book Singled Out provides an overall context. Both my Aunts' romantic partners were killed during the war.

They both became businesswomen, running small business making cakes and patisserie. One had better luck financially than the other because her shop was in a more prosperous location, and therefore did not lose as much custom during the 1930s depression. However both lost their businesses to bomb damage in WWII. As women without families they were required to work where the government sent them (called "directed labour"). One managed to get work with someone she already knew, whereas the other ran a NAAFI canteen on an air-base, where she met her husband, a local, widowed, farmer.

I remember them both as slightly stern old ladies. We were expected to behave well in their presence. With the benefit of hindsight I realise how kind, and often indulgent, they were to us as small children. Both would have risen to the challenge of a fancy OSM cake with ease: I still remember that one used to make cakes for us shaped like sailing yachts with rice paper sails!

Much of what I recount above I only learnt later. I don't recall WWI being mentioned very much by the older members of the family. I do know that there was always a sense of lives wasted futility, and a feeling that such things should be remembered (see Vimy Ridge below). I imagine this experience would have been true for many people of my age, for others it would have been WWII.

Vimy Ridge


Canadian National Memorial
Canadian National Memorial by Mark Kilner, on Flickr
Incidentally, images of this site create amazing headaches over copyright provisions.
The first war memorial I have a distinct memory of visiting was the Canadian Memorial at Vimy Ridge, the site of a battle. This was, by First World War Standards, not a particularly bloody battle, resulting in the loss of around 4000 Candadian lives and an unknown number of Germans. It had particular significance in Canada because it was the first time all the units of the army had fought together. It is also a good site for a major memorial, positioned high on a scarp overlooking the former coalfields around Lens.

I was nearly 7 years old at the time and we were on a family camping holiday travelling through France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany. We visited early on a misty August morning. The area close to the car park is now wooded, but is full of shell craters, old trench lines (some of which have been preserved) and other remnants of the battle. Much of the area is still unsafe from unexploded ordnance.

As we drew near the memorial the sun burnt off the mist, and the stark clean lines of the monument shone in the sun. Close up I saw that every surface was covered by names of Canadian soldier who had lost their lives during the war. This simple listing of names is still one of the most effective way of communicating the enormity of loss of life and has been used elsewhere for Holocaust memorials, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, and the Air Forces Memorial at Runnymede. It certainly left me with a lasting impression.

I returned there almost to the day 18 years later. Just about everything, including the weather, was as I had remembered it as a 6 year old.

Looking at maps I realise now why this memorial was the one we visited: it is close to a main road from the channel ports and the monument is a prominent feature in the landscape. I presume our original visit was more or less by chance: we were passing and my parents knew something about it.

Other Memorials

One or two other memorials have a specific personal resonance:
Air Forces Memorial Runnymede
The Air Forces Memorial, Runnymede
CC-BY-SA via Wikimedia Commons
  • The Air Forces Memorial. This is the main memorial to men and women who lost their lives serving in the Royal Air Force during WWII. When I was a student I lived in a house with a landlady: her eldest son never returned from a bombing raid in 1943. He would have been 19 years old at most, a couple of years older than my mother. When I visit I always think of the mother mourning her lost son. The memorial has another meaning to me too: later I shared a house with the grandson of the architect. His father, the architect's only son had died very young, something which affected both his father and son.
  • Great Gable and Scafell Pike Memorials. (see image at top of blog). These are two contiguous areas of mountainside in the English Lake District. Both were acquired after WWI, gifted to the National Trust and dedicated as War Memorials. The smaller on Scafell Pike, to the men of Cumberland who died in the war; the larger centred on Great Gable dedicated to the members of the Fell and Rock Climbing Club (FRCC). The latter has always had more attention because since it was dedicated in 1924 it has been the site of a religious service on Remembrance Sunday. I believe typical attendance is around 500 people. Both these memorials are inspiring to me because it is both possible to remember their lives and enjoy walking and climbing in a landscape which meant a lot to them.
What prompted writing this post were two books I have read recently:
  • Into the Silence by Wade Davis. This is about the first three European (strictly speaking British) expeditions to Mount Everest in the early 1920s. I was originally sceptical about a new work on this subject: many people write books about it, but often fail on the original research. However, Davis not only has used a lot of primary sources, but he has had the great idea of showing how the men who first tried to climb Everest were all deeply affected by WWI. He starts with the dedication of the FRCC memorial on Great Gable, and after reading the book this seems deeply fitting.
  • FRCC Centenary. A slim volume published by the FRCC this year as a supplement to its Journal. It contains a short history of the decision making involved in deciding on a memorial and purchasing the land, as well as short biographies of those remembered on the memorial.

Coda

Personally I dislike associating militarism with war memorials, or calling all those remembered "Heroes". The truth is that there were brave people, cowardly people, honourable folk and dishonest folk. Some died believing in what they did, others died in terror because there was no alternative. All died young, and their deaths affected many people around them, and even later generations.

I will try and map a few more war memorials as a personal act of remembrance unencumbered with symbols. I'd hope to persuade other OpenStreetMap mappers to do something similar: for all participants in any conflict. I'd love to see more unusual memorials, such as the two mountains mentioned above, mapped.

As ever with OSM, we map that which has meaning to us. I hope I have explained why mapping these particular features has meaning for me.

I hope you might join in me in my little mapping quest.



by noreply@blogger.com (SK53-osm) at October 30, 2014 09:17 PM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Updated zoom level 12 rendering

New Zoom 12 rendering

Accroding to the dev mailing list, the main change to the standard stylesheet shall involve the showing of tertiary roads at zoom level 12.

It may be a while for your location to receive the new zoom level 12 style.

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I recently finished my 2nd year of Uni (Nursing) and am now having a break. It's hard to stop being busy so I have been out walking a fair bit and recording traces to stick into OSM. I was inspired by volunteering for The Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team - creating maps for aide workers around the world.

It's kind of addictive, mapping stuff. I would like to encourage others to contribute it's easy once you know what to do. Maybe I'll arrange a meet-up over the summer....

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by xklove2000 at October 30, 2014 02:03 AM

Rendering Oddness for Runway Refs

It seems rendering of ref tags on aeroway=runway is slightly broken. Runways always have two identifiers (one for each direction) and these are typically written together in the ref tag separated by a semicolon. It appears this semicolon is being replaced by a linefeed character, which makes sense for the current highway shield rendering style. But on runways, the value of the ref tag is still drawn along the way, and multiline text along a path doesn't seem to work, so instead we get a placeholder glyph that looks like a tiny "LF" in a box.

I think if we could get that semicolon replaced by an em dash ("—") instead (only for aeroway=runway of course) we'd have a satisfactory resolution.

by Vid the Kid at October 30, 2014 12:43 AM

October 29, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

IndoorOSM and Wheelchair-Navigation

I'm currently working on a project at my university where we try to build a proof-of-concept-app (android) for indoor navigation with focus on wheelchair-users and their needs. Wheelchair-users have special needs as the width of a door might be to small for the wheelchair, stairs are not usable, ramps might be too steep, find an alternative route if an elevator is 'out of order'. We are still in the planning phase and currently evaluating what technologies we will use. To create maps of the buildings we will most likely use IndoorOSM-features [0]. The plan is to create the building-maps from emergency-maps (German Wikipedia [1]) if we don't get better ones. We will use those maps as background in JOSM [2] and draw the buildings with it. As those maps are created by following an official norm I hope, that there is no licensing problem with it as they are not a product of creativity or invention.

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There is already a similar app for outdoor-wheelchair-navigation built at our university, but it is not officially published. We are adding this feature of indoor-navigation and both project will be merged. There are already industry-partners, who are interested in this app. This app will very likely be published some time and not just stay a research-project.
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[0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IndoorOSM
[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flucht-_und_Rettungsplan
[2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/

by babalone at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM

Today's stats

In my stats today on Pascal Neis' site, I reached 911 in both nodes and ways. A fitting milestone for triage work done in the unkempt corners of the map, clearing Tiger debris.

by AndrewSnow at October 29, 2014 07:39 PM

Ethiopia, Sudan, Nicaragua...

Some recent work i'm proud of:

  1. Fixed the tags (and in some cases the boundaries) of all of Ethiopia's national parks, including Gambella, Bale Mountains, Awash, etc. I even added the Alatish National Park which was entirely missing.

  2. Nearby on the Ethiopia/Sudan border, improved the area where they are building the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam on the Blue Nile.

  3. In Ethiopia's Afar province, added the newly-built Tendaho Irrigation Dam with its huge reservoir.

  4. In Sudan, improved the massive Khashm el-Girba Reservoir and nearby city of Al-Qadarif which needed lots of work.

  5. A large number of waterways in the wild eastern parts of Nicaragua (like here) and Honduras (around here), although sadly most of the streams aren't visible until zoom level 13.

  6. Just now, a complex relation for the Las Trampas Regional Wilderness, near San Ramon, CA, USA

by bdiscoe at October 29, 2014 08:24 AM

October 28, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Unofficial Bus station/bus stop

Most Buses start their journey from here though they come from other places and may be going through that point as a bus stop. so it's both a bus stop and bus station

by sylverhawk at October 28, 2014 04:10 PM

SK53

Strava & OpenStreetMap GPS traces: a quick comparison

Strava introduced their heatmaps and their Strava Slide tool at the Washington DC conference of the OSM US community SotM-US in the spring. I had a quick look at the time and it seemed interesting, but there was little data in areas which I map.

A question came up recently regarding how accurate the Strava heatmaps are for mapping routes on OpenStreetMap, particularly in wooded areas. This prompted me to have another look at the data.

It happens that I have made a lot of traces across two paths on an open playing field (an area sufficiently unobstructed that it is used periodically for calibrating and testing professional grade GPS equipment). A short distance from these two paths is NCN 6, a heavily used national cycle route. It was therefore very easy to grab some screen grabs of Strava and OSM data:

Jubilee Campus, Nottingham : Strava Heatmap
Strava Cycling Heat Map
(NCN 6 on left, university cycle paths centre & right)

Jubilee Campus, Nottingham : OSM GPS traces
The same area showing traces which have been uploaded to OpenStreetMap
(probably mainly by me)

I don't know how Strava collect their data, but clearly they have many more data points than the most assiduous individual on OSM might record. Also even when there are no trees or other sightline obstructions, recorded paths can be quite variable (in general my Garmin will claim an accuracy of 3-4 m in the above area).

Now, 6 months after the US conference, there seems to be a lot more information in Britain and other places in Europe. My first Strava based edit was to add an old mule path in Glarus canton in Switzerland. I walked this path back in 2001, but because it is largely through a N-facing wood it was not possible to discern it on aerial photos.

This is a great example where additional external data can facilitate adding something to OSM. In the countryside around British cities it is now becoming possible to refine traces of paths (and indeed identify which ones are likely to Rights of Way) from the density of traces.

So in summary Strava heatmaps look like a really powerful addition to the mapper's armoury, and where there are many people using Strava it is likely to be more accurate than collected OSM traces.

by noreply@blogger.com (SK53-osm) at October 28, 2014 01:33 PM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

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by xklove2000 at October 28, 2014 04:50 AM

The trouble with the ODbL - summarized

Kevin Pomfret from the Centre of Spatial Law just published The ODbL and OpenStreetMap: Analysis and Use Cases a white paper reviewing pain points in the ODbL - OpenStreetMap's current license.

2.5 billion OpenStreetMap nodes!

The paper provides a comprehensive review of issues broached in talks at State of the Map US (More Open, OpenStreetMap Data in Production) and State of the Map EU (The State of the License) and discussions thereafter. It offers an assessment of legal risks and includes a series of case studies focusing on legitimate use cases of OpenStreetMap that are currently impeded or complicated by the ODbL. At both State of the Map conferences I have heard requests from the Licensing Working Group, the OpenStreetMap Foundation board and others for a more solid summary of problems and actual real world use cases that are impeded by the license. This is why over here at Mapbox we have supported the Centre of Spatial Law to compile this white paper.

Here's an overview of issues identified by the paper in order of appearance in the ODbL license:

  1. License does not cover contents - the ODbL covers the database, but not its contents. OpenStreetMap does not make clear under what conditions the actual contents of the OpenStreetMap database are available.
  2. Rights of contributors is uncertain - neither the ODbL nor the Contributor Terms protect a licensee from third party intellectual property claims. Note that a third party here is not limited to contributors, but would also include parties whose data has been imported to OpenStreetMap.
  3. Uncertain if and to what extent "share-alike" applies - the delineation between Produced Work and Derived Database is fuzzy and the crucial concept of Substantial is entirely undefined. This makes the extent to which share-alike applies to data that is combined with OpenStreetMap data guesswork.
  4. Uncertainty as to which jurisdiction's law applies - the ODbL states it will be governed by the laws of the relevant jurisdiction in which the License terms are sought to be enforced. - the global nature of OpenStreetMap together with (1) makes it unpredictable as to in which jurisdictions to expect claims.
  5. Lack of a cure period for a breach - there's no grace period to make amends. If you're in breach of the license you have to stop using it right away.
  6. Unclear governance - there is no authority to ask for definitive clarifications around the license. When posing questions on related mailing lists or the OpenStreetMap Foundation the standing practice is to defer to license interpretation and non-existing case law.

The paper's case studies illustrate how potential OpenStreetMap users don't use OpenStreetMap at all - or not to the extent they could - due to the problems outlined above. This is a crucial issue - we're not a community of givers on the one side and takers on the other, there's a large overlap between data users and data contributors and the more we can get OpenStreetMap used in the real world, the more exposure we have to potential contributors, the more contributors we'll have.

Here are some of the case studies:

Yale University does not use OpenStreetMap in research under HIPAA or similar privacy regimens because of concerns that ODbL's share alike provisions could force researchers to open sensitive data - for instance when geocoding research data with OpenStreetMap data. This example highlights the issues with share alike (3) but also with governance (6). Some of the concerns expressed by Yale may be based on a conservative reading of the ODbL, but the absence of license governance in OpenStreetMap (6) and the understandable desire to avoid any risk of violating federal law rule out OpenStreetMap as an option where it should be a prime candidate.

As the Wikimedia Foundation is exploring opportunities to integrate tighter with OpenStreetMap they are running into incompatibilities between Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license, Wikidata's CC0 license and the OpenStreetMap's ODbL. It should be a no brainer that OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia should work as close as possible with each other for the benefit of both projects. Maybe a good real world use case we can get all moving on?

Foursquare is not using OpenStreetMap for reverse geocoding where they could due to concerns about share-alike extending to Foursquare data. Foursquare has been an awesome engine for driving people to become contributors and they show willingness to contribute data but can't commit if the extent of the commitment is not clear. This is a great example of where we're loosing out on contributions with a license that tries to take it all. To hear it directly from the source, listen to Dave Blackman's talk at State of the Map US.

The National Park Service is working on standing up their own OpenStreetMap like service where they could otherwise use OpenStreetMap directly to power Park Service maps. This is due to the fact that OpenStreetMap's share alike provisions are not compatible with the National Park Service's policy to keep their data in the public domain.

What next?

For a full read of the white paper, head over to the Centre for Spatial Law blog.

by lxbarth at October 28, 2014 12:13 AM

October 27, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Marcações iniciais do Grupo de Cartografia

Olá, meu nome é Patrícia Leal. Trabalho em um grupo de Cartografia da EEEFM "Jacaraípe". Nossa proposta até o fim do ano é mapear a região de Jacaraípe (Especificamente a desembocadura do rio Jacaraípe - que sai da Lagoa do Juara).

by Patrícia Silva Leal Coelho at October 27, 2014 09:59 PM

Money!

One of Steves favourite sound bites is “we have the money, lets employ somebody” in a couple of variants, used again in his current manifesto to convince people in to electing him back to the OSMF board.

During my time I simply ignored them, not wanting to derail things more than they typically were, but the obvious response would have been “how on earth would you know?” (well that is actually the polite version).

The OSMF has limited financial reporting (it has improved over the last two years) and essentially no planning, also known as a budget. It is currently simply not possible to know what the financial status of the OSMF is or should be at point in time in the future. And while the OSMF has roughly £80'000 of cash available we shouldn't be eating too much in to that given that substantial amounts of it would be needed in case of larger hardware problems (imagine one of our hosting locations catching fire) or other shortfalls and unexpected costs. Not even mentioning any kind of planning for short term cash needs.

It is one of the things that I consider a personal fail that we didn't manage to get something resembling a conventional budget in place over the last two years. It is not difficult, but it would have required cooperation from multiple board members to be actually meaningful and that was not forthcoming and so I concentrated on other pressing issues.

One of the larger planning issues is the largest line item, SOTM. Right now a couple of days before this years event, the OSMF board has no idea what has been signed in its name (if anything has been signed that is), what the potential risks are, nothing. And this was the same the previous year, the year before, the year before that and so on ….

Last year the board faced a potential GAU (German expression for the largest conceivable accident) when the local organizers for Birmingham threatened to walk out, we patched that up, but till this day we don't quite know how much we would have been in the red had the worst case happened. [I would like to point out that the local team was doing the right thing. I was simply showing that, yes, even "safe" things go wrong, and without planning you can't even do "what if"s in such a situation]

Now there is quite a lot of potential sources of funding available for OSM, but we are kidding ourselves if we think it is going to rain manna if we don't get our act together, get our financials under control and actually have projects worth funding (a separate topic).

To be clear, from a legal point of view there is nothing wrong with the OSMF finances and the way we have financed hardware purchases in the past has been low risk, leaving SOTM and our G&A as the larger variables. But it has trapped us in a vicious circle.

Rebooting (with an emphasis on boot) the OSMF board might be a way of breaking out, installing a Junta with the person mainly responsible for the current state of affairs in charge, not.

by SimonPoole at October 27, 2014 03:25 PM

Middelheim museum, Antwerp

I have regularly visited the Middelheim museum in Antwerp. It is part of a park, free to visit, dogs are allowed (on the lead) and it's not too far away. Until 2 weeks ago I never bothered to map it. it was just of of those places that I visit.

Two weeks ago, we had a meetup in Antwerp. One of the topics we discussed was mapping the Antwerp Zoo. There I got the idea to map the museum in more detail.

So after 2 visits, I have mapped about 2/3 of the artwork (statues, sculptures, constructions). For each piece I recorded the name, the artist and the "construction" date as indicated on the information panels next to each item.

This is the map so far http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/standbeelden-in-middelheimpark_19613#16/51.1829/4.4175

I cannot add pictures of all items, as in Belgium we do not have freedom-of-panorama. I could have done it for older work, but I tend to forget the exact age.

I hope to add the last third with my next visit.

by escada at October 27, 2014 10:48 AM

Vision?

In 2011 the then current board had a face to face meeting in Seattle and produced a set of "audacious goals" for OSM that were

  • The World’s Most Used Map
  • More Than Just Streets
  • Cultivating Leadership of Mappers
  • Easier Contribution for Non-Geeks

Now some of these would have been directly actionable, but the first two are really "visions" under a different name. And as visions goes they are quite good, far out goal posts that nobody expects to be achieved soon.

And we are still far away from reaching the first goal . There are lots of pieces missing before we can remotely hope to achieve it, but we are on the way.

Steve has long harped about adding more addresses to OSM, matter of fact I have too. From a pure usability point of view if you want to produce a competitive device or app with door to door navigation support you are going to need address data. To be more precise this boils down to adding hose/building numbers with their associated streets (intentional pun) to our dataset in some form.

Note on the side: there are lots of regions that don't have a conventional western way of describing locations, we don't have good support for that yet in OSM, solving the “address problem” tends to centred around 1st world countries.

The OSM community has lots of experience with adding addresses by both on the ground surveying and imports of suitable open data, matter of fact we've had a full country “complete” for half a decade now. What is however undeniable is that it is slow progress, even importing a couple of million addresses (we don't have good numbers, but it is likely that there is something between half and one billion address conventional house addresses out there) takes a lot of time if you want to provide some minimum quality and the preferable on the ground surveying tends to be even slower.

But we are making progress and looking at one of the larger countries, Germany, with 81 million population, we are now at roughly 1/3 coverage with a combination of on the ground survey supported by open data and smaller imports, completion likely in 2 years at the current rate.

There are some places where we don't have a good handle on the issue, for example in the “original OSM country”, the UK, due to the addressing system revolving mainly around non-surveyable proprietary schemes and house numbers playing a secondary role. But we are not the only group feeling the pain there and I'm optimistic that we will find a way out, and if it is simply by replacing such proprietary systems.

To summarize: addresses are important and yes it is something that the community is working on with dedication. There is really nothing visionary about it at all at this point in time, not more than “lets map all roads in Germany”.

Hammers

Steve has a legitimate commercial itch that he wants scratched and he wants that fast. This is not unique, readers following the “imports” mailing list have seen similar requests from HOT, matter of fact one of the HOT requests had that other problematic attribute “non-editable”.

Luckily HOT hasn't tried to stage a coup d’état to get their way. But what it does tell us is that the OSM data format, its tool chains, its editors and other applications have become extremely popular and people prefer our tools over others. It is a great testimonial to OSM.

OSM was built around the notion of mappers collecting or curating data and then adding it to our central repository, iteratively improving the quality and completeness over time. “fast” and “non-editable” are the antithesis to what normal OSM is about.

Now I'm sure ESRI doesn't get many complaints about them not providing the ultimate multi-100 GB all free geo-data of the world shape file that includes everything, so why do we? I can only guess that it is because people are feeling left out and think that if their favourite dataset is not included that they are not part of this great community.

But, really, it is just a superficial marketing and packaging issue.

If Steve or better his employer want to create the

ultimate_free_address_superpack_US_edition.osm

containing a quickly thrown together conversion of all the open data address sets in the US, great, the OSMF might even be convinced to distribute it in the same place as the planet dumps. And we have more than enough id space to support conflict free merging.

There is simply no need to compromise the normal OSM community process for a short term gain.

We don't only have hammers, please stop just seeing nails.

by SimonPoole at October 27, 2014 10:08 AM

Líneas de autobús de Málaga

He comenzado a mapear las rutas de los autobuses urbanos en Málaga.

¡Tenemos trabajo por hacer!

Para coordinarnos he creado: Bus routes in Málaga

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by xklove2000 at October 27, 2014 01:24 AM

October 26, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Todos os 42 Bairros de Valparaíso de Goiás Adicionados no OSM por mim

os bairros Cruzeiro do sul,Chácaras Anhanguera,Chácaras Araguaia,Chácaras Benvinda,Chácaras Brasil A,Chácaras Brasil B,Chácaras Ipanema,Chácaras Lourdes Meireles,Chácaras Marambaia,Chácara Pirangy,Chácaras Rio Branco,Chácaras Saia Velha,Chácaras Santa Maria,Chácaras e Mansões santa maria,Chácaras Ypiranga,Cidade Jardins,Jardim Céu Azul,Jardim dos Ipes,Jardim Jockey Club,Jardim Oriente,Loteamento Pacaembu,Loteamento Ipanema,Mansões Ouro Preto,Mansões Paraíso Perdido,Mansões Paraíso Perdido,Mansões Recreio Estrela Dalva,Mansões Santa Marina,Morada Nobre,Parque Araruama,Parque do Ipe,Parque Esplanada:I,II,III e V,Parque Marajó,Parque rio branco,Parque Santa rita de cássia,Parque são Bernardo,Valparaiso II,Vila isabel e Chácaras Saionara foram todos adicionados por mim

Provas

[Texto ]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26348956 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224866 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224853 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224814 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224790 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224715 (URL)

[Texto] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26224680 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24603570 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22232732 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22239892 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22214994 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22232881 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22239474 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22240186 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22240221 (URL)

[Texto]http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22240277 (URL)

by menino_dalit at October 26, 2014 09:25 PM

OSMF Board of Directors Election

I decided I wanted to take my OSM involvement to the next level and run in the next OSMF Board of Directors election. Please check out my OSM wiki page for information about my background, why I am running, and some of the things I would like to do.

by FTA at October 26, 2014 08:37 PM

Entered minor changes, JOSM appeared to hang

I entered a few corrections near Geronimo, Arizona, because I drove through the intersection of Geronimo Lane and Black Lane and it was a little bit different from what the map showed. When I closed JOSM, selecting the Perform Changes button, JOSM appeared to hang with the message "Preparing layer xxx for upload." showing on the dialog window. It appears that the changes were successfully uploaded. I will check in a day or two to see that my changes are intact. Note that I updated my Java version today (Oct 26, 2014) before running JOSM.

I should mention that I'm using Windows 7, 64-bit

by Richard Hufford at October 26, 2014 08:16 PM

Shaun McDonald

Should councils be fined for cycle promotion on fast/dangerous roads

Yesterday afternoon I was out on a cycle ride with my wife from Ipswich to Colchester via Hadleigh and Sudbury. Most of the route was covered by either Sustrans or South Suffolk Cycle routes. Some of these routes run along busy B roads, with traffic speeds of up to 60 mph through the use of the national speed limit sign.

National Speed Limit sign

At one point I came across a junction where all the signs had been wiped out:

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There were also various bits of squashed animal on the roads, some are meant to be quiet back lanes (instead seem to be rat runs), including the NCN1. I’ve not included any photos as it is rather gruesome.

This didn’t exactly fill me with any confidence that cycling along this road, the National Cycle Network Route 13 would actually be safe.

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by smsm1986 at October 26, 2014 07:06 PM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Honduras Imports

Esta es la cuenta que será utilizada para hacer las importaciones en openstreetmap de la información que se disponga de Honduras, de inicio se esta planificando la importación de los datos de departamentos, municipios y aldeas

Esperamos que pronto Honduras disponga de esta información en openstreetmap para que pueda ser de utilidad a los diferentes usuarios

by Honduras Imports at October 26, 2014 06:33 PM

ШТОСМ

Дневной сон

Сегодня с 14:00 до максимум 15:30 по Москве серверы баз данных OpenStreetMap будут отключены. Данные из API нельзя будет не только отправить, но и скачать. То есть, не будет работать ни один редактор. Вы можете загрузить часть карты в JOSM заранее, но будьте готовы к конфликтам правок, загружая отредактированное несколько часов спустя.

Не будут создаваться файлы репликации, не будет работать вход по имени-паролю OSM: ни на форумы, ни в trac, ни на help.osm.org. Будут работать как прежде: сайт и поиск адресов, тайлы, списки рассылки, вики, чатик, репозитории git и svn. Во время технического перерыва администраторы поменяют местами главный и вспомогательные серверы БД. Это теоретически можно сделать вовсе без отключения систем, но, во-первых, лучше подготовить к длинному отключению на всякий случай, а во-вторых, во время отключения серверы перезагрузят, чтобы обновить ядро и другие модули.

October 26, 2014 04:54 AM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

Viaducto RN16 y Av. Sarmiento

La Presidenta Cristina Fernández inauguró el primer viaducto de la ciudad de Resistencia y primer viaducto de la Ruta Nacional 16. Mapa GPX

by pertile at October 26, 2014 03:51 AM

Dutton Park Cemetery

Corrected a number of incorrect roads within the Dutton Park Cemetery after walking the centrelines with a GPS enabled smartphone and the TwoNav mapping software.

by ShaunKolo at October 26, 2014 02:00 AM

更新南通

几个月已经更新了南通一部分区域,希望自己再接再厉

by xiaotu at October 26, 2014 01:42 AM

Törökbálint

Haladunk Törökbálint házszámozásával; a fél város készvan kb. Nem egy gyors művelet, de nem is lassú: eddig 3 délután alatt 1500 házszámot lestünk le, ebből ma 700-at, 2ó 15p alatt. Ennél valamivel többet sikerült felvinni, mert az ortofotó alapján gyakran lehet interpolálni.

Gépesített alakulatunk 2 fő, 1 autó, egy Sony Z2 mobil (GPS+Glonass). A mobilon a Keypad-Mapper 3 app-pal dolgozok, ez GPS pozícióhoz tárolja a bevitt számokat. A módszer egész jól bevált, a minták 1-2% -át problémás értelmezni a GPS hibák miatt, de ez nem rossz hibaarány. Az autó egyesben alapjáraton épp megfelelő tempót diktál, nem sokat kell kuplungozni. Az utólagos felszerkesztés kb ugyanennyi idő vagy még valamivel több.

Engem az osm iránti lelkesedés, párom pedig az autózás szeretete és az ebéd motiválja. Nagy szerencse az adatrögzítői múltja, jól bírja a monotonitást. :) Ennél többet már én nem bírok.

Hajdú Péter Like bisztrójában király a pizza és a hangulat - minden alkalommal rácsekkoltunk. A TV-ken kizárólag lenémított TV2 megy, ami még vicces is néha

Most nem lesz alkalmunk visszamenni egy ideig, de később simán befejezzük az egész várost ha senki nem előz be!

by Roland Pallai at October 26, 2014 01:20 AM

Thank you for your trust!

Rewind two years, September 2012. I'm rather fuzzy on why I stood for the OSMF board in the first place, but I remember at least being annoyed by the treatment of the working groups by the board, experiencing first hand a dress down of one our most respected community members just because he didn't jump when the then chairperson said jump. And yes something didn't feel quite right about the organisation.

To make a long story short, I wasn't expecting to end up being elected the chairperson and further was expecting the fault lines inside the board to be in other places than they turned out to be. Naive me assumed that we would be having heated discussions about the scope of services the OSMF provides and how we delineate what the OSMF does from commercial and other services providers, how to grow the OSMF membership base and how we could best support the wider OSM community. Alas things were not quite ready for that.

My approach was let the past be the past, fix the issues and then move on. The net result was an uphill battle every foot of the way over the last two years and for the moving on part, well that might have happened now.

Why did I step down?

No, I didn't step down because of some flak on the mailing lists. I'm a big boy (well I am kind of small actually) and can easily take the heat. A consequence of exposing yourself and engaging with the community is that you tend to function as a focal point for everything real or just perceived wrong about the organisation you are representing, it simply comes with the territory. But I still think it is necessary out of respect to the OSMF members to be open about what I think and where I believe the sticky issues are, instead of spewing safe political correct canned sound bites or hiding away somewhere.

Steve Coast has decided to stage a come back after two years as chairman emeritus, as board member and chairperson that put me between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand I have to respect our democratic processes and not interfere with the ongoing election, on the other hand I do hold strong opinions on where we should be heading and in what fashion.

To make things clear: I consider it a very silly thing for Steve to do, bad for him, for the OSMF and for the whole project.

As the board member that has driven most of the change over the last two years, I see the danger of old alliances undoing the baby steps towards a more mature organisation we have achieved. An organisation that could actually engage in all the things the current board candidates envision. An organisation that holds a stable course and can function as a trustworthy intermediary between our fantastic community and the rest of the world.

I stepped down to make clear this is not about power, or my personal position, but about what is best for OSM.

Somebody who has been to a recent talk of mine on OSM might remember a slide representing OSMspace, showing some of our fairly complicated interactions and overlaps with the outside world, the OSMF a tiny speck somewhere off centre. Yes the OSMF is just a tiny piece of the puzzle with limited influence on the project as a whole. Most of our contributors will likely never know that it exists, no different than the Wikimedia Foundation. What is different is that OSM is a significant player in a multi-billion dollar market and the outside forces are of a very different nature.

While the OSMF is just that tiny speck in the OSM ocean it does hold the keys to our core product and with control over the foundation it is completely possible to misuse that. Yes, even handed, community control of the OSMF is important for everybody in OSMspace, and it scares me when somebody seriously proposes handing those keys to a Junta, even if it is “only for a year”.

I would like to end for now with thanking everybody that was kind enough to show me support over the last few days it is much appreciated.

More to come .....

by SimonPoole at October 26, 2014 12:15 AM

October 25, 2014

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

seeking Administrator

Hi,

Please advise me how to communicate with Administrator ?

Ta

by သိန်း​အောင် at October 25, 2014 07:51 PM

1000

A bit over 10 months ago the SOSM board decided that we would try and systematically send a welcome note to every new contributor in Switzerland http://sosm.ch/how-many-mappers-are-there-in-switzerland/. Today I just sent off the 1000th such message, not a big deal, takes a couple of seconds per mail and I typically send them every 2nd day or so. The mail (in 4 languages, really should be in five), tries to be as low key as possible and simply welcomes the new mapper and points out our local and international resources.

Observations

  • there hasn't been a noticeable increase in SOSM membership signups, on the one hand 10 months is too short term to expect that to happen, and on the other hand we don't actively solicit that in the mail anyway.
  • just as above direct feedback is quite rare.
  • the "one edit user" seems to be on the way out, most of the users already have more than one changeset by the time we send the mail (nailing that down in hard numbers is a project for another day).
  • given that Switzerland is rather small (8 million population), well mapped (as all DACH countries) you wouldn't be surprised to see some indications of saturation after 9 years, but there are no such effects noticeable at all.

If you think this is a good idea and are considering doing something similar yourself, please note:

  • in most countries you will want to split the work up and coordinate, swamping new users with mail is likely not a good idea.
  • Pascal Neis provides a RSS with new users on a country by country base here: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/newestosmlist
  • users signing up to OSM don't have to agree to receiving unsolicited mail, matter of fact there is currently no way that they can opt-in at all. This implies that you should consider the legal implications in whatever jurisdiction you are and be careful how you word your mails. I haven't heard of any problems, but you never know.

As a final note: most old timers know about or have participated in the reoccurring discussions on why people sign up for an OSM account and then never edit (there is currently no way of getting zero edits sign ups per region, so you can't contact those). I'm personally fairly sure that we have quite a good conversion rate, there are simply no comparable numbers from other projects available to prove that, others disagree. But as this example shows http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/user_4682 in the end we get them all :-).

PS: I should point out that by no way this is particularly original, we have had users doing this for a long time, it should be seen more as a reminder that this can be done.

by SimonPoole at October 25, 2014 07:48 PM

Muki Haklay

muki

If you have been reading the literature on citizen science, you must have noticed that many papers that describe citizen science start with an historical narrative, something along the lines of:

As Silvertown (2009) noted, until the late 19th century, science was mainly developed by people who had additional sources of employment that allowed them to spend time on data collection and analysis. Famously, Charles Darwin joined the Beagle voyage, not as a professional naturalist but as a companion to Captain FitzRoy[*]. Thus, in that era, almost all science was citizen science albeit mostly by affluent gentlemen and gentlewomen scientists[**]. While the first professional scientist is likely to be Robert Hooke, who was paid to work on scientific studies in the 17th century, the major growth in the professionalisation of scientists was mostly in the latter part of the 19th and throughout the 20th century.
Even with the rise of the professional scientist, the role of volunteers has not disappeared, especially in areas such as archaeology, where it is common for enthusiasts to join excavations, or in natural science and ecology, where they collect and send samples and observations to national repositories. These activities include the Christmas Bird Watch that has been ongoing since 1900 and the British Trust for Ornithology Survey, which has collected over 31 million records since its establishment in 1932 (Silvertown 2009). Astronomy is another area in which amateurs and volunteers have been on a par with professionals when observation of the night sky and the identification of galaxies, comets and asteroids are considered (BBC 2006). Finally, meteorological observations have also relied on volunteers since the early start of systematic measurements of temperature, precipitation or extreme weather events (WMO 2001). (Haklay 2013 emphasis added)

The general messages of this historical narrative are: first, citizen science is a legitimate part of scientific practice as it was always there, we just ignored it for 50+ years; second, that some citizen science is exactly as it was – continuous participation in ecological monitoring or astronomical observations, only that now we use smartphones or the Met Office WOW website and not pen, paper and postcards.

The second aspect of this argument is one that I was wondering about as I was writing a version of the historical narrative for a new report. This was done within a discussion on how the educational and technological transitions over the past century reshaped citizen science. I have argued that the demographic and educational transition in many parts of the world, and especially the rapid growth in the percentage and absolute numbers of people with higher education degrees who are potential participants is highly significant in explaining the popularity of citizen science. To demonstrate that this is a large scale and consistent change, I used the evidence of Flynn effect, which is the rapid increase in IQ test scores across the world during the 20th century.

However, while looking at the issue recently, I came across Jim Flynn TED talk ‘Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents (below). At 3:55, he raise a very interesting point, which also appears in his 2007 What is Intelligence? on pages 24-26. Inherently, Flynn argues that the use of cognitive skills have changed dramatically over the last century, from thinking that put connections to concrete relationship with everyday life as the main way of understanding the world, to one that emphasise scientific categories and abstractions. He use an example of a study from the early 20th Century, in which participants where asked about commonalities between fish and birds. He highlights that it was not the case that in the ‘pre-scientific’ worldview people didn’t know that both are animals, but more the case that this categorisation was not helpful to deal with concrete problems and therefore not common sense. Today, with scientific world view, categorisation such as ‘these are animals’ come first.

This point of view have implications to the way we interpret and understand the historical narrative. If correct, than the people who participate in William Whewell tide measurement work (see Caren Cooper blogpost about it), cannot be expected to think about contribution to science, but could systematically observed concrete events in their area. While Whewell view of participants as ‘subordinate labourers’ is still elitist and class based, it is somewhat understandable.  Moreover, when talking about projects that can show continuity over the 20th Century – such as Christmas Bird Count or phenology projects – we have to consider the option that an the worldview of the person that done that in 1910 was ‘how many birds there are in my area?’ while in 2010 the framing is ‘in order to understand the impact of climate change, we need to watch out for bird migration patterns’. Maybe we can explore in historical material to check for this change in framing? I hope that projects such as Constructing Scientific Communities which looks at citizen science in the 19th and 21th century will shed light on such differences.


[*] Later I found that this is not such a simple fact – see van Wyhe 2013 “My appointment received the sanction of the Admiralty”: Why Charles Darwin really was the naturalist on HMS Beagle

[**] And we shouldn’t forget that this was to the exclusion of people such as Mary Anning

 


by mukih at October 25, 2014 07:29 PM

"OpenStreetMap.org User's Diaries"

HOT mapping with iD made a little bit smoother - pre-fill changeset comments

When we run mapping parties as part of the HOT work, we see lots and lots of newcomers mapping for the first time. Increasingly we're getting them using iD which is very easy for them to get started with.

One little issue I noticed in sessions is that for HOT we ask people to use very specific changeset comments - essentially to "tag" the changesets as belonging to a particular labelled task. It was very easy for people to spend half an hour mapping and after half an hour have no memory of what we said about copying-and-pasting a specific comment. Workflow problem!

Now, the team who create the iD editor kindly added my feature request which means that the HOT Tasking Manager can now "pre-fill" the changeset comment in the iD editor. So no need to copy and paste, it should be there when you click through from the Tasking Manager.

What does this mean? It means that in future, HOT mappers using iD will not need any reminding about what to put in the comment box! Easier mapping, easier training, more consistent changeset comments.

Thanks everyone who helped put this through.

(P.S. There is one little technical niggle to resolve - if the comment contains an equals sign then the pre-fill doesn't work on firefox. Hopefully sorted soon.)

by mcld at October 25, 2014 10:06 AM

Personal benefits of contributing to OSM

The big goal of OpenStreetMap and the various themed projects is to provide a free & editable map of the world, or something like that, which is great (and so is the progress). But altruism isn't the only reason I've found myself continuing to edit and contribute for the last 18 months or so.

Exercise

I suppose this is dependent on how and where you're mapping. WIth the streets and major items filled out in my local area, I've moved on to the smaller things like addresses and sidewalks and even benches and picnic tables. That sort of stuff can't really be done at typical driving speed, and it's a lot more relaxing to just go for a stroll with a camera or notepad. I don't know if it's made a huge difference in terms of activity, but it sure beats watching TV on the couch. And it makes for good motivation - sometimes I can't be bothered walking around the block a few times, but who knows what might be on an unseen street! Which brings me to another benefit...

Exploration & Awareness

Generally if I went somewhere in the past I wouldn't dawdle - the journey was just time to kill until I got to the destination. Now though, even when I'm not directly mapping I'm more likely to take a different route, or see what's down that side-street I've driven past hundreds of times but never actually needed to traverse, or pull over and take a look at the view instead of glancing out the car window. And though I'm still happy to let my mind wander on a good relaxing walk, I generally pay more attention to my surroundings, whether it's an unsigned shortcut to the next street, or smaller stuff like "that's a lovely garden" or "this would make a great photo". Even on a larger scale, it's a good excuse to go for a trip to a neighbouring town or park - not something particularly unusual, perhaps, but at least something I find myself doing more. And even if I get a little carried away or too far off the beaten track, it's less of a problem, thanks to...

Knowledge

All that time looking at street signs and shop fronts in the real world, and digital maps on the computer later, has led to the expected result - I know my area a lot better than I did before. It's just like most other skills, where if you just keep practising and spending time on it you improve, but I doubt I'd have spent nearly as much time "memorising" voluntarily otherwise. My mind's-eye-copy is hardly perfect - I'm still terrible at most of the street names around here - but it's handy to be able to have a pretty good idea of what I can buy where in town, or how to get from here to there in five different ways, or even just what's over the next hill.

Oh, and knowing something I drew is on maps and websites all over the place is pretty nice too.

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